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(2016) Question 60: When is your return on investment (ROI)adequate to justify installing a desalter to treat purchased FCC feeds? What other factors besides FCC catalyst impact and unit corrosion are used to determine ROI? How do these desalters differ, mechanically and operationally, from a conventional crude oil desalter?

This is a three-part question. The first question is: When is the return on investment (ROI)adequate to justify installing a desalter to treat purchased FCC feeds? The capital and operating costs of an FCC feed desalter are supported by improvements in performance, operating costs, and reliability.
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(2016) Question 61: How many inside/outside operators staff your FCC plant? What other processes are included in their scope of responsibility?

[United Refining Company (URC)] Our FCC unit has five operators per shift. Typically, two people are inside running the DCS (distributed control system) and board-mounted controls while the other three are doing rounds in the unit.
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(2016) Question 62: We have run a full-burn FCCU for many years. We are considering processing more resid and operating in a partial CO combustion mode. What is a carbon runaway, and how can it be addressed?

A carbon runaway or “snowball” occurs in an FCC that is operating in partial CO combustion mode and very high CO levels. In the runaway situation, the carbon on regenerated catalyst (CRC) rises to levels such that additional coke that is laid down on the catalyst cannot be burned from the catalyst in the regenerator, causing the CRC to continue rising like a snowball that gets bigger and bigger as it rolls down a hill.
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(2016) Question 63: What are your current methods used for regenerator cyclone temperature control? Do you use water sprays or steam injection?

In the early days of FCC, the normal bed and dilute-phase operating temperatures –being less than 1100°F –did not support CO combustion. These units operated with high levels of carbon on catalyst and about 10 vol% CO in the flue gas with almost no excess oxygen in the flue gas.
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(2016) Question 64: What are your typical operating guidelines to prevent compressor surge episodes? How closely do your FCCU operators approach the actual surge line of a compressor before adjusting operation?

[United Refining Company (URC)] The unit engineer/compressor manufacturer should be able to provide guidelines to prevent surge episodes. These guidelines may include safe windows of operation for air rates, discharge pressures, and discharge temperatures.
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(2016) Question 65: Please comment on which FCC feed types you are currently processing and what chemicals you are using for gas plant corrosion prevention. Is waterwashing sufficient to sustain adequate unit reliability?

Our refinery typically runs Western Canadian Crudes, SYN, and some conventional heavy crudes.
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(2016) Question 66: In your experience, how does changing the feed cutpoints impact FCC conversion and product yields? How does the LP (liquefied petroleum) determine where to make these cutpoints?

Deeper cuts will not have as high a conversion as will lighter cuts. For example, an FCC charge API gravity of 22 may have a conversion of 83%, while a lighter gravity of 23 will show conversion one point higher at 84%.
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(2010) Question 78: In your experience, how effective and reliable are hydrocyclones, electrostatic separator, additives, and filters in reducing the ash content of the slurry?

There are basically 3 types of ways to reduce the ash content in slurry oil. They are electrostatic separators, additives with settling and filters. They all have their advantages and disadvantages, and they all do a reasonable job in reducing ash in slurry.
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(2010) Question 89: In shifting from partial burn to full burn in a side by side unit, what has been your observed impact on the NOx emissions? What is necessary to achieve 20 ppm NOx?

Several Grace customers successfully operate with NOx emissions less than 20 ppm in full combustion without the use of NOx removal hardware in the flue gas circuit.
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(2010) Question 90: Does any refiner use an on-line particulate emissions (PM) analyzer to measure PM concentration and/or particle size distribution in the flue gas? Are any of these analyzers using continuous emission monitoring systems (CEMS)? How reliable and accurate have these systems been?

Sunoco currently has a particulate matter (PM) analyzer in one location on the stack of a Wet Gas Scrubber. It is there to measure Filterable PM only, not particle size distribution. This was installed as a requirement of a local environmental permit.
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