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(2019) Question 11: Where are your liquid-phase chloride treaters installed for reforming units? What are the advantages of each location?

BILL KOSTKA (AXENS NORTH AMERICA)
Liquid-phase Cl treaters are typically used in three locations for reforming units.

Treating the unstabilzed reformate stream provides several advantages.  The stream is heated upstream of the stabilizer column which ensures that any ammonium chloride is

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(2019) Question 15: What practices and modifications have you implemented in response to the new High Temperature Hydrogen Attack (HTHA) guidelines and updated Nelson curves?

JOE RYDBERG (CITGO)
The primary source document for dealing with High Temperature Hydrogen Attack (HTHA) is API Recommended Practice 941 – Steels for Hydrogen Service at Elevated Temperatures and Pressures in Petroleum Refineries and Petrochemical Plants. This document provides the basic guidelines

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(2019) Question 16: What is required to achieve Safety Integrity Level 2 (SIL-2) rating on the hydrocracker depressuring system? For a hydrotreater that does not require SIL-2, what position should the depressurization valve fail to?

JOE RYDBERG (CITGO)
CITGO typically seeks process safety consultants to help with SIS design including SIL selection.  Kenexis is such a company who has provided the following technical information regarding depressurization systems.   

There are a multitude of different initiating events (loss of

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(2019) Question 17: What testing frequency and additional feed characterization (apart from bulk properties) should be used to accurately monitor catalyst performance on heavy feeds?

FERNANDO MALDONADO (Shell Catalysts & Technologies)
The type and frequency of tests performed are unit and refinery specific. When creating or modifying a unit’s laboratory test schedule some factors to be considered include: 

1.    Unit objectives
2.    Past and/or current operational issues 
3.  

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(2019) Question 18: What are your methods to mitigate bed 1 pressure drop without a unit skim? How would your approach be different if the pressure drop developed in a different bed, say bed 3?

JOE RYDBERG (CITGO)
Mitigation of elevated pressure drop first begins with identification the nature of the pressure drop.  Is the DP a result of a more gradual buildup or a step change from a unit event or upset?  Was an event related to hydrogen starving of the unit or loss of recycle compressor?

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(2019) Question 20A: What are the recommended guidelines for operating temperature and temperature rise in reactor beds during the initial month of operation? What determines these limits?

Recommended guidelines for operating temperature and temperature rise in reactor beds during the initial month of operation
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(2019) Question 21: We are observing fouling of our feed/effluent exchangers that has impacted heat transfer and restricted feed. What are potential contributing causes and how can we mitigate?

ROBERT STEINBERG (Motiva Enterprises)
There are many things that can contribute to fouling of feed/effluent exchangers. Fouling can occur on either the feed or product side of the exchangers.
 

Possibilities sources of fouling on the feed side include:

•    Dissolved O2. Oxygen can get into feeds

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(2019) Question 22: What sets the endpoint limit for feed to an Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel unit? Should 90%, 95%, 98% or Final Boiling Point be monitored and what is an acceptable tail for amount of feed greater than the cutpoint spec? Is the answer different for straight-run diesel vs coker diesel vs Light Cycle Oil feed components?

AMIT KELKAR (Shell Catalysts & Technologies)
There is limited boiling point shift from feed to product in a typical diesel hydrotreater. The boiling point shift correlates strongly with H2 consumption which is dependent on feed properties and unit conditions. In our experience, boiling point shift

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(2019) Question 25: What are your key factors around amine contactor operation in hydrotreating units?

JOE RYDBERG (CITGO)
The biggest key factor in amine contactor operation in hydroprocessing units is controlling the lean amine flow and the lean and rich amine loading.  We have seen corrosion in rich amine piping likely due to elevated H2S loadings and higher velocities (both lean and rich)

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(2019) Question 26: What do you do to predict Silicon breakthrough in a naphtha hydrotreater? What are the consequences to the downstream units if breakthrough occurs?

AMIT KELKAR (Shell Catalysts & Technologies)
The primary source of Silicon is the anti-foam injection at the coker. Silicon is also present in a wide variety of crudes including Maya, Canadian syncrudes and Venezuelan. It may show up in straight run naphtha due to use of Silicon based additives in

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