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(2010) Question 56: Some crude tower overhead deposition appears to be linked to corrosion treatment programs (i.e. filming corrosion inhibitors and neutralizers). Have you confirmed this and what are the potential mechanisms that can lead to this deposition?

Corrosion inhibitors (filmers) have been known to cause deposition in several different ways. Generally, the cause is injection into an overhead that is too hot, flashing off the carrier, or injection of neat chemical, flashing off its solvent.
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(2010) Question 58: In your experience has a non-phosphorous corrosion inhibitor been successfully used to mitigate naphthenic acid corrosion? In what circumstances and under what conditions are non-phosphorous corrosion inhibitors used?

Phosphorus-based naphthenic acid corrosion inhibitors have been successfully used in the refining industry since the early 1980’s. Phosphorus provides its protection to steel by corroding it and forming a passive layer that, under SEM/EDS, proves to be an Iron/Phosphorus/Sulfur blend.
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(2010) Question 59: What are refiners using to define the corrosivity of high acid crude oils and how is this data obtained?

In line with industry rules of thumb, Marathon considers a crude to be high acid with a whole crude Total Acid Number (TAN) above 0.5% or a side stream above 1.5%. With low sulfur crude slates the maximum TAN may be reduced, as one of our refineries that runs a predominantly sweet slate experienced naphthenic acid corrosion resulting in the TAN limit being reduced to 0.3%. Crudes are blended to the refinery TAN limit with sulfur, metallurgy and specific stream temperatures taken into account.
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(2010) Question 60: Please discuss advanced methods you use to monitor corrosion in operating units. Are any of these used in conjunction with the DCS for continuous on-line monitoring?

Marathon utilizes three methods of corrosion monitoring in the crude/vacuum units: multipoint resistance measurement (iicorr, FSM, GEBetz RCM) systems for naphthenic acid corrosion, ER probes, and corrosion coupons. While the use of coupons may not be considered an ‘advanced method’ for monitoring corrosion, we do continue to utilize them in our refining system.
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(2018) Question 34: What is considered your practical limit on TAN (Total Acid Number) of blended crude diet before monitoring, treatment, or metallurgy upgrades should be considered to avoid naphthenic acid corrosion issues?

Understanding the mechanism of naphthenic acid corrosion, we model the hot circuits looking at the potential TAN of the stream, metallurgy and fluid velocity within the circuit. Once this has been done, we evaluate the options, if the corrosion potential is high enough.
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(2018) Question 36: How do you manage the potential negative impacts of H2S Scavengers in imported coker feed?

How do you manage the potential negative impacts of H2S Scavengers in imported coker feed?
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(2018) Question 37: Do you extend the time between de-coking the furnace by cutting coil outlet temperature or cutting furnace charge? How often are spallings done in coker furnaces? What is the temperature recovery after spalling?

Heater fouling is dependent on several variables that include the process film temperature, residence time at temperature and coke precursor concentration. I like to target a coke drum outlet temperature of 825°F before quench injection, which normally requires a Coker heater outlet temperature of 925°F.
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(2018) Question 38: How does coke morphology vary with changes in feed quality? What feed tests do you require to quantify the impact on coke quality?

Predicting coke morphology from feed properties has not been 100% successful as the Coker operating conditions can make a difference if the feed is close to the shot coke vs. sponge coke threshold. The traditional approach uses the asphaltene content of the feed divided by the concarbon value of the feed.
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(2018) Question 39: What operating conditions increase the generation of coke fines? What reliability issues do you associate with increased fines production?

Coke fine generation is really a function of the coke cutting process. Feed stock and coke drum operations during the actual drum fill cycle have very little to nothing to do with the generation of coke fines.
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